Words can get someone involuntarily committed to a mental hospital. Words can be used to take away rights. Words can affect national policy. Words were what Adolf Hitler used to send people to the concentration camps, and they’re what Donald Trump is using to do the same thing today. Words are extraordinarily dangerous.

When we legitimise words that dehumanise the mentally ill, words like r*tard or n*rcissist, we give more power to fascists, because they can go on to use those words and people won’t be offended. Ordinary people’s offence is a defensive weapon that can be used to protect against the misuse of words. Ordinary people’s offence is a valuable resource it makes sense to cultivate.

I want people to be more easily offended, so that they’ll resist messages of hate spread by fascists. If people learn to be okay with hearing slurs casually thrown around on the street, words like f*ggot and n*gger, then things are going to get worse for the people those slurs describe.

Piefed isn’t the canadian instance runners, you’re thinking of fedecan

But if we go even further back in history, to the very origins of the term, it’s not good. There’s an ancient Greek myth about this teenage boy, Narcissus. He was 16 years old and very beautiful, so everyone wanted to marry him. But he just wanted to be alone in the woods and be a hunter. Bring back food for his community. But every time he returned to civilisation, he was inundated with marriage proposals. And he was just a boy. So he loses his temper and tells one of the people sexually harassing him, Ameinias, to go kill himself. Ameinias actually does if, because he’s genuinely obsessed with Narcissus, and as he does it, he prays to the goddess Nemesis for revenge. So Nemesis curses Narcissus to be capable of beholding his own beauty. Next time the kid comes across a pond, he sees his reflection in it, becomes obsessed with staring at himself, and dies of thirst because he can’t tend to his basic needs.

So this is an aro/ace child in an aphobic society who was sexually harassed, lost his temper, and sentenced to death by a god.

A lot of people perceive Narcissus as some kind of abuser, and I think these readings of the myth come from just how aphobic Greek society was at the time. They thought if you’re pretty, then you owe people sex, and if you don’t want to have sex, then you’re stuck up and full of yourself. It’s disgusting. And I’m not comfortable with the way our society has spent 3000 years mocking a queer child. Even a fictional one.

So no, I’m not going to become okay with hearing the word used as an insult. I’ve genuinely done a lot of research on this issue and I’m convinced it’s bad. As an asexual, I relate to Narcissus. As someone who suffered child abuse and now has a harmful relationship with My self-image, I relate to Narcissus. Our society hates people like him and people like Me because its values are all twisted up, same as the ancient Greeks.

The word “autism” originally came from psychiatrists’ perceptions that autistic people are preoccupied with ourselves. So if I say “My boss is so autistic, it’s disgusting”, is that okay? Etymologically, it’s valid. I’m not talking about a disorder. But I don’t think it’s an okay thing to say.

When psychiatrists made narcissism a label to apply to vulnerable people, I think they made it off limits for casual comments. I’m careful about labelling people as antisocial or paranoid too. Those are serious words used for serious conversations about mental health. That means they can be dangerous in untrained hands. Think of those words like power tools. You don’t pick up an angle grinder and start waving it around without the proper training and carefulness. That’s going to get someone hurt. These words have just as much destructive potential, so we need to treat them the same way.

I have NPD, and I don’t like it when My disorder is shortened and used as the word to identify Me. I’m not a “N*rcissist”, I’m a person with NPD. Call Me a person, not a disorder.

This article would have been better without the ableist slur against people with NPD.

For the record, I believe feddit.org goes far beyond the legal requirements with respect to zionist hate speech.

I agree that there’s a big difference between natural pedophiles (pedophilia as a sexuality) and Epstein pedophiles (pedophilia as a kink).

The research that I’ve read on the subject suggests that Epstein pedophiles are opportunistic - they offend when there is an opportunity to do so. That could be having a martini on Epstein’s island, or it could be browsing Reddit and seeing a post from r/jailbait. During that first encounter, if the person has enough excuses to be able to say it’s not that bad, it’s not illegal, it’s not actually harming anyone, then they are likely to seek out more “content” and re-offend in worse ways.

In other words, if we make cruelty free imitation child porn available to natural pedophiles, we’re going to create more Epstein pedophiles. We’re not actually helping by doing that. It’s counterproductive.

Legally, it is. I agree with the law that cruelty free imitation child porn is still child porn, just like I believe vegan butter is butter.

Playing video games causes more playing video games. Looking at child porn causes more looking at more child porn.

There’s an argument to be made that this content satisfies a need for some mentally ill people, and I did believe in that argument when I was younger, but hopefully we’ve all learned from the Epstein files that demand for this kind of thing can be created from scratch in formerly normal people.

Yes, the name should be changed. The pictures on that community would be completely legal to look at if they were not described as fauxbait, but when they are posted with that framing, they become a crime to look at in Australia (And Finland, according to a Finn on Matrix)

Studies show playing video games raises short term aggression. But we have no hard data on the long term causative relationship between video games and violence, because it’s very difficult to cause patients to play video games for many years. I sure hope people are learning some of their moral values around violence from video games. I hope Wolfenstein makes people more violent towards neo-Nazis. I hope Horizon makes people more violent towards tech CEOs. I hope Subnautica makes people want to protect nature.

Now I’m going to cite Humm et al., (2020)'s insights into the psychology of first-time CSAM offenders. Most first-time CSAM offenders are unaware that what they’re doing is a crime, and they have doubts about the harmfulness of what they’re doing. In other words, they’re exactly the kind of people who tend to use the fauxbait community, and in fact they have a lot in common with people in this thread such as yourself.

Nonetheless, as a factor motivating onset, such exposure, or ‘opportunity’, is thought to have a ‘greater impact’ on an individual’s likelihood of viewing CEM than pathological motivations or drivers such as overpowering sexual urges

In other words, if you see this kind of porn by accident and you don’t think it’s that bad, you’re more likely to go on to become an online-only child sex offender.

Adults that look young is in no way child porn, and to brand it as such is to stigmatize people for how they look.

I mostly agree with you, and that’s why I think it’s disgusting that the users of ! fauxbait@fedinsfw.app are calling the women they’re posting fauxbait. It’s degrading to the women to market their porn as faux child porn.

Also I’m pretty sure Epstein talked a whole lot of rich people into becoming pedophiles. And Stephen Hawking, allegedly.

It’s faux jailbait and jailbait is child porn.

Pedophilia is sexual attraction for children, and the community is for people who are sexually attracted to children. It’s full of fake child porn for pedophiles to masturbate to. @lemmyposter212@fedinsfw.app is making the distinction that real child porn is against the rules, but fake child porn for pedophiles to masturbate to is not. @introvertturtle@lemmy.zip is saying it’s disgusting that wanting to look at child porn is allowed, regardless of whether the child porn is real or fake.

Those two statements look contradictory because you’re conflating pedophilia with child abuse. There’s no child abuse in the community, but there’s plenty of pedophilia.

People who want to look at child porn are pedophiles whether the child porn is real or fake. And fake child porn is not a treatment for pedophilia. Posting child porn on the internet makes more pedophiles, not less.

Fauxbait is short for faux jailbait. Jailbait is child porn that looks like adult porn. So in short, fauxbait is pictures of adults who look like children who look like adults.

The issue is that they’re marketing to pedophiles. If they marketed those same sex workers to people who are attracted exclusively to adults, I would have no problem.

Making porn doesn’t reduce demand for porn, it increases it. The community will likely make more pedophiles