I’ll do that just as soon as you show me something definitive showing that Apple has an entire revenue stream based on selling user data that isn’t reported.

Dude, get ahold of your emotions. 😂

Samesies my dude

lol I give you a source that refutes your “Apple bad” argument and you have to resort to going after me personally because you have nothing left.

The data collection you mention is device and usage stats, which basically everyone collects. But that was never the issue, which was selling user data for profit. The source I provided compares what Apple and Google collects and determines Apple does not do this.

You can also look up revenue streams for both companies and clearly see that while Apple does not consider this as a revenue stream, it makes up a significant portion of what Google brings in every year. At that point I think you just have misdirected anger.

lol yeah that’s what I was agreeing with you on 🤣

Your turn ;)

You could also just look at the revenue streams reported by each company and see that most other tech companies make a majority of their money on what Apple has been accused of doing.

Also you could just……review their public financial statements and compare to other tech companies. Google is very much an advertising company, and it’s a huge part of their reported profits. The fact that you could ignore that and think Apple is worse simply because you feel like they are is just a silly debate strategy.

Agreed with the main points you said. It’s one thing for a company to collect hardware data and usage stats for their services but to compare Apple to the likes of Google and Roku which make a majority of their profit on collecting and selling data, then there needs to be evidence of data collection beyond that.

For your own argument? No, I won’t prove your points for you.

If you believe Apple is doing something, I await evidence they are until shown otherwise. If you’re just flipping that logic around to shirk this, then you’re not actually trying to converse in good faith here.

If you want a source for my argument, here you go: https://fossbytes.com/apple-data-collection-explained/

I did what you said, and found this article that goes into what Apple does collect, compared to what Google collects, and confirms that no, Apple is not selling your data.

https://fossbytes.com/apple-data-collection-explained/

So I guess that means you’re wrong?

Maybe next time argue with facts and not feelings.

I’m happy to be proven wrong, but need a little more than some anon’s vague doubts first.

Do you have any examples beyond your own preconception?

If Apple were secretly doing this without user consent this would be a pretty huge liability for them.

Then it shouldn’t be difficult for you to provide me with some examples, considering the other listed companies literally do it openly as a major part of their revenue stream.

We should absolutely be upset with the shit Apple is doing, but right now you’re just being contrarian with a false argument.

Because Apple doesn’t rely on selling or advertising your data as a business segment. That alone makes them the lesser evil.

Still an evil, just less.