Fair point. But I do think it is important to protect Lemmy’s reputation. It’s less about salesmanship, and more about standing up to bad takes and random, misc bullshit.

Agreed. Even in those threads though, in my experience. Even if the op is asking, op is not the only one in the thread. More often than not, people will jump in specifically to badmouth us.

I always see a lot of pushback against any alternatives proposed on reddit itself. There’s a pretty strong, probably multi-faceted resistance any time anything new is mentioned. So, it’s good to keep in mind you will face that, and be prepared with some patience and counter-arguments.

One of the big disadvantages we have is that we’re still somewhat under-developed, due to being newish still, alongside not having corporate-levels of resources to pour into development.

This leaves us open to things like the recent spam flood. These things will get ironed out over time, but until they do, they’ll inevitably harm the platform’s growth.

In just the past 6 months though, apps have rolled out and steadily improved, some security issues have been addressed, and larger communities have built-out their admin capacity. So, we’re approaching being primed for growth, but that recent spam flood took me aback for a second.

You want to make a strong first impression, since it carries a lot of influence and you only get one shot. So, before we really do heavy campaigning to try to draw people, we want to make sure they’ll have a good experience while they’re here. I think we’re close, but not quite there yet.

Progress has been steady and overall positive though. One thing I think that gets underestimated is the importance of the size of our body of old content, and how much it helps to grow that. The meme communities having pages and pages of memes to scroll, the news communities having articles on everything in triplicate, the tech communities having thousands of interesting old convos to look at, the art communities being crammed full of art, etc etc.

That body of old stuff ends up being a kind of bedrock that future users will be more interested in building off of. Then the niche communities will start to pop more imo.

Sounds like a fantastic option for folks that don’t like any mandatorily enforced censorship.

They should all go there.

Comments and votes are content too.

Somebody has to fill this place with content…

…I really like the sound of that idea.

I’m also likely to switch to kbin at some point. Personally I take a fairly long-term view of this project, so I’m waiting to see which projects keep going, which fail, and which new ones haven’t even popped up yet. I’m aware that devs can pivot and change their minds about things.

I picked lemmy initially more or less at random, and I do like it here, but I’m ultimately going to move to the most functional product. That broader idea of the Fediverse is why I’m here.

Yes, I was saying I didn’t see how the liabilities of video hosting with peertube are any different from any other local video hosting.

Regarding GIMP it sounds to me like you just don’t like it. lol You’re entitled to your opinion, it’s fine. Why you find the need to leave your review here is beyond me though.

I don’t see how there’s anything special about it from a liability standpoint. The main advantage I can see from it is simply not supporting google. And yes, there are definitely other options. Does people making competing solutions to problems surprise you in some way?

I mean, I wouldn’t dev it, but I see no valid reason to criticize whoever wanted to.

Certainly. Effort is important and a financial reward is certainly a strong incentive. These are advantages in youtubes favor. Moreover, the hosting cost is really where problems start to come in with peertube.

I suppose if you expected it to properly replace youtube, then I agree, it’s a poor idea. As something that exists independently with its own value, I think it’s fine though.

You can’t prevent the ad from manipulating you. It’s targeting your subconscious, your moods and feelings. They don’t give two shits what your forebrain thinks of them. They want vague associations that slip beneath memory, that pop out five years later.

They’re ubiquitous because they’re so effective though. Really is a pain in the ass.

So uhm … just don’t subscribe to those things. Not sure why you dislike the idea of having the option though.

Art isn’t required to be inherently iterative. It usually is, but that’s a casual correlation. I think what you’re talking about sounds like professionalism, which is a different thing. It encourages consistency and quantity, but not necessarily excellence, as I think the world has demonstrated fairly well.

Thank you for pointing out that the majority of the userbase does not overly like the tankies. Frankly, I find interacting with them to be very similar to interactions with a religious nut, which is also annoying.

That said, I think it is very important that we preserve their rights to be here just as we are. There is no reason they should not be able to establish their own Instances and communities. Nobody is forced into federation with them, and this overall structure can easily accommodate us all.

If not without the occasional flamewar. We are on the internet, let’s not kid ourselves.

I mean, yea. The whole point of this project is to replace traditional internet services with updated and improved ones.

So, we should probably do that. It’s not a question of the ideas being good or not, though, it’s how there’s not enough people to do all the sitting down and physically working to create these things. So, progress is slow. Just because there’s not that many of us yet, in the grand scheme of things. Especially compared to the scope of the Fediverse’s ambitions.

Juuuust keeping the lights on.

I think we’ll need a more polished, tuned, crisper product in order to actually retain a significant userbase of less techy sorts. Which is probably still some time away.

For better or for worse, though, I don’t think the social media landscape is going to change too much in the foreseeable future.

But really, this isn’t good enough. It’s lacking the layer of polish that the mainstream public expects, it’s basically still in alpha. Development takes time is all.

I just want to point out that our fairly optimistic views and plans for Lemmy has very likely specifically attracted trolling attention. We have a target on our backs, because some people just like attacking nice things. Most of the internet is not very nice, so does not need to be attacked. We are trying to do something different though, and that will attract some negative attention whether we like it or not.

Since they want to have a chilling effect on the community, hopefully demotivating some of its userbase, it is necessary to embody a willful refusal to be chilled.

For each of us.

Fear is appropriate, being aware of it indicates a healthy amount of EQ. I think this will be an asset during your path.