There’s a pretty strong no-scraping (and scraping-adjacent) sentiment within Mastodon
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There’s a pretty strong no-scraping (and scraping-adjacent) sentiment within Mastodon
Well, not to shit on the idea too much, but right now as of posting, looking at ~100 posts in the feed and the majority are bots, automated posts, or otherwise “brand” posts, not just regular people, and a few are Threads users or bridged Bluesky/Xitter accounts.
Doing a quick label:
That’s getting close to the 5k character limit, but you get the idea. This has actually negatively influenced my opinion on fediverse activity. I didn’t realize that such a high share of the activity wasn’t actually just “normal users”.
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High quality, positive content boosts mental health
Browsing shallow memes and political outrage here is basically just home-made junk food instead of store-bought junk food. Likely less unhealthy, but that’s not exactly eating a bowl of vegetables lol - that would perhaps be reading a book or something. Not a great fit for the comparison imo.
(as an aside, it seems plausible that junk food in small quantities as part of a balanced diet might boost mental health vs strictly never indulging)
I feel like your preference makes sense when aligned from the perspective of a conventional forum-like platform. However I’d argue that that’s missing a core part of what kbin is/was – and by extension what Mbin is – which is the microblog integration alongside the forum-like stuff. With that context in mind, boosts (or whatever term you want to use for “retweet”) make sense to integrate imo.
Whether or not you think Mbin should try to integrate the microblog side of things is of course a subjective - I personally think it’s a cool idea to try at least, but with how dominant lemmy has become it can be difficult to reconcile differences and incompatibilities between it and other software like Mbin.
Mbin has a specific and different meaning for the term “post” as used in the OP, so it’s one place where translating from lemmy or other “generic internet forum” jargon doesn’t work. It’s for microblog posts associated with a magazine that are independent of threads in that magazine.
E.g.: https://fedia.io/m/firefox/microblog has “posts” in Mbin terminology – though if I had to guess I think most Mbin users will use the qualified “microblog post” or similar if they actually mean to reference the Mbin meaning of the term.
What’s up with the android beef? I hadn’t heard about that one 😅
It’s worth noting that since FedSearch, Mastodon has actually natively implemented opt-in search on posts.
From the submission:
Not a rival, just an alternative
The realization that led us to develop PeerTube is that no one can rival YouTube or Twitch. You would need Google’s money, Amazon servers’ farms… Above all, you would need the greed to exploit millions of creators and videomakers, groom them into formatting their content to your needs, and feed them the crumbs of the wealth you gain by farming their audience into data livestock.
Monopolistic centralized video platforms can only be sustained by surveillance capitalism.
Even though we cannot pinpoint the exact budget Framasoft spent on PeerTube since 2017, our conservative estimate would be around 500 000 €
With these two perspectives it seems to be doing well, even if it can’t / won’t entirely displace the major players.
Which is exactly how the real world works. Harm has to be identified to suggest solutions.
According to the submission, some harms have been identified, and some solutions have been suggested [that could reduce the same and similar harms from occurring to new and existing users] (but mostly it sounds like a “more work needs to be done” thing).
I imagine your perspective on the issues being discussed are different from those of the author. The helicopter parent analogy makes sense in a low-danger environment; I think what the author has suggested is that some people don’t feel like it’s a low-danger environment for them to be in (though I of course – not being the author or one such person – may be mistaken).
Edit: [clarified] because I realised it might seem contradictory if read literally.
I’m not understanding why blocking is ineffective…?
As I understand it, because it requires harm to be experienced before the negating action is taken.
A parallel might be having malware infect a system before it can be identified and removed (harm experienced -> future harm negated), vs proactively preventing malware from infecting the system in the first place (no harm experienced before negation).
Unless you’re also throwing money at YouTube premium (etc), isn’t this by definition unsustainable to do? So it’s not really a viable long-term strategy either.
Like don’t get me wrong, I don’t want all the tracking and stuff either, but somebody has to pay those server bills. If it’s not happening through straight cash then it’s going to be through increasingly aggressive monetization and cost-cutting strategies.
UPDATE: the shutdown has been (for now) retracted.
The admin (jerry) has switched from kbin to a fork called mbin that has apparently been able to integrate changes faster than the base kbin project. Jerry seems satisfied with the number of issues fixed in the fork (for now), so has retracted the shutdown announcement (for now).
FEDIA.IO update!!!
After I made the announcement about shutting down fedia.io, someone pointed out that Melroy, a very active developer on kbin, forked kbin to mbin. I just migrated to mbin and so far it seems to have resolved all the problems I’ve seen. It’s likely too early to tell, but I think that Melroy is VERY responsive and helpful, so I am retracting my shutdown announcement. And that makes me very happy.
https://infosec.exchange/@jerry/111235153655966812
Followup: https://fedia.io/m/fedia/t/350673 tl;dr retraction has become more concrete. No need for the “for now” qualifier anymore.
Yeah, I looked around and unfortunately couldn’t find that much either (except for a few specific niches).
Honestly though, if peertube semi blew up the same way mastodon / lemmy / kbin have I think most of the hosts would shut down in the process. Anything but short videos are hella expensive to store and distribute en masse compared to text + images. Video might be one of the things that can only survive if mostly centralised for now.
A search engine for it was released (or at least promoted to me) recently - should be helpful for that: https://sepiasearch.org/
Based on the name, perhaps Freetube rather than Piped, but they’re both just youtube frontends.
The feeling is that simply having it be public isn’t an automatic license to re-use or “re-appropriate” the content outside of what’s required for normal network functionality. From that perspective, federating a post to a normal Mastodon / fediverse server = OK, viewing that post in your browser = OK, but many other uses = not OK.
This subset of the userbase want the norm for “extracurricular uses” of people’s posts to be opt-in only, even for public posts. I kind of envy the idea in some ways (aggressive requirement of consent), though in the world we currently live in, it does seem unrealistic without a team of lawyers behind it.