How much effort do you think Meta, Twitter, and Reddit put into getting open social media people to fight against themselves?

Yeah, I don’t expect it to scale well. Certainly not as well as Rust.

No, they’re not.

how the developers handle certain types of content

Doesn’t matter if you stay away from .ml.

the behavior of its creator

Kind of valid, but open source and open license negates a lot of that.

how the sotware itself handles users’ privacy.

You think anything else on the Fediverse is better? When you post something publicly, it’s public. Doesn’t really matter what the software does. If you don’t have End to End encryption, it’s not private.

You know, I would pick instances that aren’t federated with hexbear or Lemmygrad.

Usernames include the instance, @moseschrute@lemmy.world

Picking a default instance seems like the right approach.

That’s the way it is. That’s what this meant.

I believe that an out-of-the-box lemmy instance will remove deleted content from federated instances automatically.

You’re asking for changes to software to prevent changes to software. The whole point of this thread is that server owners can make whatever software changes they like.

By default things get deleted. Don’t count on that for any platform. Once together put something out on the public Internet, there’s never a guarantee it’ll go away. No matter what anyone does, I can always take my phone out and take a picture of what you’ve posted before you delete it.

There’s no need to stick to the most popular software.

As long as they properly interact, sure. But critical mass is important, and I feel like Lemmy is just getting there.

https://lemmy.world/post/23079780

Because besides monthly active users, LW has 4,600 subscribers where lemm.ee has 537. It’s not a clear cut case.

I’m also on BlueSky as well as Mastodon, because BlueSky has the momentum right now, and critical mass is important.

In that same vein, I wish you’d treat LW as you do any other instance. We’re not hostile to other instances, and I think there’s a healthy balance right now. It doesn’t hurt Lemmy to have a bigger, more mainstream instance. I think defederation solely for the sake of defederation does hurt Lemmy.

At the time, everything HTTP was supposed to be public.

I agree with your argument, but not what you’ve applied it to.

“Federation” isn’t the main feature of Lemmy, and we don’t need to focus on it. It’s enough that it exists. When selling a house, would the first thing you focus on be the insurance rates if something goes wrong?

Especially on mobile.

Mumble is another strong, open source, self-hosted option.

Just to give a concrete example, there are a couple blatantly political posts on !fediverse. Do they belong there? Absolutely not. But by the time I saw them days later, the damage was done and they were already taken care of by downvotes. Should I really mod remove a week old post with 50 downvotes? The discussion there about why it didn’t belong was fine, and didn’t need to be hidden further.

If votes are anonymous and federated, it’s very easy for me to add or subtract 900 votes from whatever I want.

You should consider anything you do on social media to be public. Even if Facebook tries to claim that it’s not.

You mean like if they went all tankie? Or like AOL email? This has already happened several times before and it’s fine. Google could kill gmail in six months and we’d all move on.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a little centralization in your federation. It works well enough for email. The point is that you have the option, not that you have to use it.

You don’t have to trade one extreme for the other. In fact, I think this is the perfect example of that. Lemmy.ml is the developers’ instance, and by default would likely be the largest. Except… you know. Many, many people started there before going to other instances, especially the largest competitor.