I’ve hardly managed to move my Instagram posts there and now they’re already rolling in the features I came there to excape.

Perhaps you should google that

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/moron-idiot-imbecile-offensive-history

I wonder what it is about the term “retarded” especially that provokes so strong negative feelings in certain people but not “idiot”, “moron” or “imbecille” though all four terms have been used as mental health diagnosis in the past

She was also banning a ton of people in that thread for “misgendering” her. Apparently she assumes everyone should open her profile to check her gender before replying.

The women on the community in question don’t even look “barely legal” but well over 20 in most cases. People are losing their minds over nothing.

!remindme 1 year

Yeah I agree that there’s possible downsides to it aswell. Ideally every user could individually block instances as they wish instead of it being forced upon us. I’d imagine this feature is eventually coming. Some apps allow it I believe

Installing their app is not the only option. You can also just switch to an instance that federates with them.

Not exactly but I feel like those are my people nevertheless

You’re being bit of a jerk in this thread but you’re still right. People are spamming one article and using the same buzzwords from that article to sound smart but the content of their messages demonstrates that almost no one understands how any of this works. People over-estimate the amount of data Facebook can collect from outside instances and they’re confused about what defederating actually does.

I don’t want anything to do with facebook either but I’m interested in actual solutions for this and not just something that feels good but doesn’t do anything.

You’re posting on public forum. If you don’t want Facebook to see it then stop posting. Defederating isn’t going to change that. It just stops the content flow from their instance into yours. Not the other way around. For them to get data other than your content and upvotes you need to install Threads app because that’s only available to the admins of your instance and Facebook can’t get it wether you federate with them or not.

People are demanding for defederation but almost everyone is confused about what it does.

Would you mind explaining how they’re going to do this with fediverse? Like explain using your own words and not just linking that same article everyone is spreading around. It seems like no one is cabable of giving ELI5 or even ELI15 answer to this.

Only way for them to get that data is by you downloading their proprietary app. When it comes to the content you post here its all public and you can’t prevent them from seeing it.

How does defederating protect you from Facebook? Honest question.

These people are already on instagram. Now they’re just giving their data to Facebook twice.

I wish even one person could give the actual steps on how Facebook is going to ruin the fediverse instead of just spamming this same one article and throwing around the same buzzwords like XMPP, EEE etc. of which nobody had heard about a week ago.

There’s so many people here right now reading this thinking that defederating is going to prevent Facebook from seeing the content you post here and collecting the little data that’s available to them. It doesn’t. That’s not what defederating does.

I’m not sure it quite works that way. They can only make changes to their platform/instance and may thus become incompatible with everyone else but it’s still up to the smaller instances wether they want to go down that road or not. They can’t really steal fediverse from us - we’d have to give it to them.

They can do that on Facebook because it’s their code and their platform. They can probably do that on their app and and instance too to some extent but I don’t think they can grab much more than the content of your messages and your likes if you’re on a different instance. Lemmy is open source; if there was a way to get that data we’d know about it.

I’m not advocating for either or. Just stating the facts. Defederation in no way makes it harder for them to take content from other instances. When you post into the fediverse it’s for everyone to see. You can only control what’s coming back at you.

Even if we defederate with them they can still grab all the content here. Defederation just stops the flow of content from their instance to ours. Defederation just hides the comments from Threads’ users on our discussions.

I think the real test is when they start demanding that other instances start moderating their content to comply with Facebook’s terms of service and if not then defederate and make them unable to communicate with the by-far biggest instance on the fediverse with almost all the users.