So lost.

… You just literally said hosting shouldn’t exist. You are using the Internet right now.

Also pretty weird to keep phrasing this as a command, discounting an entire class of use cases to be invalid because bad actors exist?

Gotcha. We’ll see, I guess.

Are you advocating for an self hosting to only exist locally? Or are you advocating for hosting everything on corporate servers?

Then they aren’t doing it correctly, or lying. That is an included/free feature. They advertise it that way and other users ITT say it works. I’ve no reason to doubt them.

I didn’t realize I did that. Given that my opinion on OSes is that “the larger the budget, the shittier it is”, I don’t knowingly do what you’re suggesting here. Linux over windows and macOS any day.

Yes, they changed the free featureset, and afaik those changes were fair. Providing a tunnel for remote streaming for free doesn’t seem like a good business plan. I mean, yeah they could always back out of the promise of what a lifetime pass is, and if they do I will find a new solution and hope they’re sued for it.

If they do back out of their lifetime commitment, I suspect that would drive some other similar apps to get better. Maybe I would even learn to live with jellyfin as it currently exists in that situation. But so far I don’t see a reason to, and that would almost have been true if I never paid for plex.

God I hate humans

Here’s a controversial and complex stance, but you may be able to understand it eventually:

Don’t buy it.

I am a proponent of FOSS too but that doesn’t mean anything built for profit is shitty, let alone “cancer”.

So don’t expose it to the internet

No

Thwres zero excuse for running anything exposed to the internet.

…except this entire thread is based on a use case for it

With Plex you get to pay for those bugs and still have software that depends on a connection even though you’re hosting and viewing your own media, locally.

You’re condescending dude. I wouldn’t be using Plex if I didn’t understand like 37 things you’re implying I don’t understand here. I paid for it once, it was a good value for me, and I find it pretty weird that you apparently want to admonish me for that. If you want to use jellyfin have at it. I found it buggy to the point of barely being usable. Just sharing that experience and I don’t need anyone to agree with that.

I understand there’s an explanation for it. Doesn’t make these things not things to consider when choosing one’s solution

That only addresses one of several items.

99.9% of the use mine has seen for the past several years has been to stream to my living room TV in the same house. But regardless, what point are you making? It’s commercial software. And btw the $85 I paid years ago to use it forever was more than worth it to me.

Imo Plex is worth the lifetime pass if you get it on sale.

All the comments saying Jellyfin is better always puzzle me. I’ve given it like three chances now and each time it feels just as buggy as the last. And that doesn’t even consider the fact that you’ll need more steps to expose it to the Internet for remote viewing or the fact that there’s literally a list of unaddressed security holes https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415

Ah the weekly “Plex should be entirely free even though it’s commercial software!”

I can believe that. The shitstain avoids having a life like the plague

That’s not what this was though, because it eventually fixed itself. I couldn’t begin to diagnose the bug, but the way I have my stuff organized works in jellyfin, but something about it’s scanner and/or database seems to have issues.

I left the scan running for an hour or so, came back and it showed, maybe all, of my shows and seasons. However, on certain views, it would not list episodes that definitely exist. The page looked kind of broken. I thought “okay I’ll give it more time”. An hour or two later, same deal. Cleared browser cache multiple times. Nothing worked. Came back the next day and it was “fixed”. But that experience felt pretty janky.

I listed three things. I didn’t have the patience to suss out what might be wrong with it because Plex required no fiddling and afaik does not have any open security issues.

So you didn’t care, just wanted to downvote. Cool.