Sure did, thanks: https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/1nif9qu/linux_phones_are_more_important_now_than_ever/

I signed it with an upvote. You’re welcome.

WAWAWEWA

I was wondering why I was receiving a bunch of late replies…

Blogs are already “social” by nature (comments)

Most Blogs require you to create an account and login to your specific blog. I ain’t doin that. But if it appears in my feed on my account that I control, I might throw in my $0.02, which will improve engagement on your blog.

In practice, ActivityPub’s distributive nature replicates content across a multitude of servers (every server where someone follows the blog), which, while not catastrophic here, is at least inefficient.

I mean, that’s kinda the point though, also. Any federated product will do the same.

Given that — and the fact that few people follow and almost nobody interacts via ActivityPub — I’ve been considering removing Manual from the fediverse for several months.

I mean, that’s fair, but also, what is it costing you to keep it? You’re greatly improving visibility of your blog.

I mention Webmention, email, and XMPP

None of those are part of RSS. Webmention does not appear to be federated. Email? How do you figure that works? XMPP is for private messages, not public discussion.

what is ActivityPub solving that the combination of these existing services do not?

The simple fact that it is not a “combination of services”, it is a single service.

But I would need to set that up separately on each device, including after reinstalling

It’s called OPML. Set up your feeds. Export OPML. Back it up using your preferred method. Import it to readers on other devices. Optionally, sync the OPML using SyncThing or similar.

Also there are integrations through FreshRSS and similar.

Also there are FOSS hosted readers like Commafeed.

You’re missing a very basic and fundamental concept: RSS is unidirectional.

That’s helpful, thank you. This is something I have deliberately looked for and been unable to find, which is disappointing. I’m happy to admit I was wrong.

which isn’t blank, and describes what it is.

But nothing about what to do with it. What is a prospective user supposed to do with this?

All of these links just lead to blank pages.

If you actually click those links there’s nothing there.

PieFed is much newer, has many many MANY fewer users, and seems to already have many more instances.

I cant even see this text without agreeing to a ToS and I’m simply not doing that.

I’m not at all an expert on the subject, but I would ask: if it’s so easy and cheap, why aren’t more people hosting them? As far as I can tell there are only a handful in existence.

Yeah, I’m seeing a lot of misdirection and reframing of the situation here. Should we be “cool” and “respectful”, yes, absolutely. Should we all agree ATP is a good idea and worth adopting? Absolutely not. It should be rejected until they figure out how to properly decentralize. As of now the protocol itself seems to fundamentally require so many resources that it disqualifies it from any sort of meaningful discussion. I hope to be wrong. Maybe as they inevitably grow to become excessively shittier, some other hosts will step in.

I was wrong.

Is it “open” sure, but not in any meaningful way as long as 99.99% of users are hosted by the same server.

AP is currently not working self-hosted.

On Lemmy I can join other servers without having to recreate an account.

Not sure what you mean by “join”. You can participate on other Peertube servers, just as you can participate on other Lemmy servers. If you sign up on another server, you will need another account. But currently Lemmy does not support following PeerTube channels. PieFed does.

As for Mastodon, The threadiverse (Lemmy + Piefed, etc) is not intended to follow individuals so it does not have that capability. However if a microblog user replies to a threadiverse user, you will be able to see and interact with that as well.

Hope that helps. Happy to hop on a call or something with you to share what I’ve learned for your presentation.

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Thanks!