I don’t think that comparison is as unequivocal as you seem to think. Sure, I bet it’s more likely than not that the average person has any of those attachments, but some people don’t. Maybe their job is a dead end, their family is abusive or toxic, their money is a sunk cost, their studies are related to a futile program, and they just need someone to put a bug in their head.

I was abused, manipulated, homeless, with 30k stuck in a scam and not a penny to my name, trying to get into triangle tech. I had every reason to stay. But my closest friend told me to run the fuck away and never look back - I had never considered it. Best advice I ever got and it saved my life. And triangle tech was just another scam.

You never know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Literally the last thing I would want from a link aggregator forum is facebook. I hated when reddit started shoehorning that dumb shit into their site and I hate that people are asking for it now.

You:

if people are telling you “this is not for beginners”, maybe it would be wise to listen to it?

Also you:

I’m among one of those

So, What gatekeeping you ask? You. And what few you say? Still you.

But don’t let me be the judge on whether or not you are an insufferable prick. So take a peruse around your own post. Let’s see how you fared…

😬

You still haven’t answered my question

And I’m not going to. It has nothing to do with the point that I was making. It has nothing to do with the quip that I started with. I came neither here nor to you to get advice. I made a sarcastic comment that you literally just confirmed. Thank you.

And the consolidation and gatekeeping of resources to the few seems just a tad antithetical to the entire foundation of decentralization.

From join-lemmy.org:

self hostable, easy to deploy

“people” are telling me that this isn’t easy, but Lemmy seems to think it is. Good luck arguing your way out of that paper bag.

Look, I hear what you’re saying. And no offense intended, but people like you crow about things like fediverse not being supported… All the while, these applications are not supported by their own developers. And unfortunately, not unlike the majority of my experiences with Linux issues, every time I reach out for help I’m told the same old hat story, “this isn’t meant for beginners”.

And the “pains that come with learning about self-hosting” are so unnecessary and in my opinion quite apparently avoidable.

"Well, did you change the port number to this number that isn’t referenced anywhere in the documentation? It’s pretty obvious to anyone that’s been doing this for 20 years - who would be able to recognize that it’s a step everyone would need to do to deploy - so there’s literally no conceivable reason why that would be included…

###IN THE TUTORIAL

…Maybe you shouldn’t be doing this."

Well, as someone who has been trying to launch a functioning Lemmy instance for nearly a year now, I can tell you, knowing not the slightest thing about funkwhale, that I would eat my hat if the documentation isn’t an all but absent shit show.

My favorite part was learning that my domain was creating a completely new cert from lets encrypt with each deployment and no way of recovering them at all. So after 5 attempts, you have to wait 60 days (or whatever) for them to expire. That was awesome. I messaged the devs about that one and they literally said “we didn’t think of that”… 😑

And so much shit goes tits up if you don’t deploy it perfectly the very first time. Don’t get me wrong, I love the fediverse, but JTFC I hate the fucking fediverse.