This requires manually enabling every additional provider. This doesn’t work if some individuals or smaller collectives wanna run their own identity providers, numbering in the thousands.

See what CIMD solves for. “Innately centralized” was probably a poor choice of words, but OIDC not a good fit for an open social web with decentralized identities and a plethora of small identity providers that cannot be known upfront.

What you’re missing is that OIDC is innately centralized and FedCM, in particular thanks to this work, isn’t.

This is all building on or complementing the same underlying OAuth standards, like the CIMD spec that Emelia originally intended for adoption into Mastodon/ActivityPub to set the stage for decentralized OAuth, but it was never brought in. The AT protocol on the other hand adopted it into their decentralized oauth-atproto standard, which is on track to become a protocol-agnostic oauth-dweb standard.

Anyone who cares about decentralized software should be dissatisfied with how OIDC works. If you wanna use your primary fediverse account to log into other fedi apps, this work is for you.

I suggested the official adoption of Photon a year ago. Xylight was tentatively on board with it.

Even more important though is this change which would allow an alternative frontend to be used as a default, instead of having to be relegated to a sub-domain.

Haha exactly!

Would love to hear about it when it’s out!

That sounds really interesting! We’re building an OIDC server for indies with Weird – please feel free to come by and chat with us: https://blog.muni.town/muni-town/

I’m aware of this library for it: https://github.com/kensanata/mastodon-archive

Dunno about any easy button-click service for it though, which is why we’re building it into Weird, which is like a CMS for your digital identity.

His point is there is no one protocol for the social web. The (open) social web is built on a pluriverse of protocols, like rss, email, irc, matrix, activitypub, atproto…

One thing that seems to go unappreciated in the comments is the simplicity of this interop proposal: It is essentially about enabling quote-posting of link-aggregator(Groups) posts.

Bluesky + Frontpage will work this way, and I believe it’ll work exceedingly well. If the ap-net corner of the fediverse isn’t interested in this kind of interop, fair enough. To me however the promise of seamless interop between my social apps was what brought me to the fediverse, so that’s the version of the fediverse I will pursue.

Yeah I get what you mean. What ‘works’ means in the context of local-first is flexible though. This might provide a useful framing: https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2023/offline-is-online-with-extreme-latency/

In any case, you’re definitely right to focus on your specific use case first without trying to fit it into any specific paradigm. I’m excited to follow Habitat’s progress!

This sounds great!

Are you familiar with the local-first tenets? Seems like a natural fit for the local nature of your app:

https://youtu.be/NMq0vncHJvU

This is certainly not spam but rather a blog response, a time honored practice as old as blogging itself.

OP’s article links to the source article (albeit via its fedipost rather than its blog post; maybe best to link both) and contributes to the online discourse with a long form reply, detailing a possible solution.

Mischaracterizing such a clearly well-intentioned contribution as “blog spam” is disingenuous.

edit: thanks for retracting your comment. I hope my retort won’t dissuade you from continuing to engage in this community :)

Thank you!

Suddenly every comic post I’ve seen has source links included now!

Maybe it was already a more common practice than I realized, but it sure looks like the fediverse hivemind took my simple bit of feedback to heart and promptly began acting accordingly. I love it here 🥰

What you want is Group-to-Group Following, which obviates the need for most cross-posting altogether.

https://blog.erlend.sh/transitioning-r-rust-to-the-threadiverse

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-d36d-sharing-content-across-federated-forums/3366

Something a bit similar to what lemmit is already doing, but more powerful with your addition of comments: read-only, best-of archives of really old content from popular subs.

10-5 year old askreddit posts for instance would be interesting blasts from the past to read today. Isn’t there already a ‘best of Reddit’ convention on Reddit itself that resurfaces such content from time to time?

Sounds like the sort of thing Cory Doctorow would write.

Most of the people who organize on SocialHub use this Matrix space to discuss fediverse development:

https://matrix.to/#/%23fediverse-developer-network:matrix.org

https://fedidevs.org/

Maybe we could get everyone in here instead? They’re eager to decentralize the ownership of the org, so representatives from the Lemmy community would be very welcome to step into leadership roles.

Yep. It’s Mastodon-compatible. Currently it’s UI-less (backend-only) like GoToSocial.