Yeah, I imagined basically exactly that happening and decided not to tell anyone about it, not yet anyway. Also, I don’t want them to get death threats from Hexbear like I did…

Same, I haven’t told a soul I use it despite being active here over a year. I still believe in it though (or just really hate the idea of accepting corporate social media).

I think they’re paid to spread disinformation (or run LLMs that spread it) that makes “the West” look bad and their authoritarian leaders (CCP, Kremlin) look good.

So if someone mentions Tiananmen Square they delete it or lie about it, or say “what about Mk ultra,” but not because they actually believe in anything other than getting paid.

Thanks! It’s already happening.

I wonder how many good, reasonable people have checked out Lemmy and seen all the CCP/Kremlin propaganda then just left.

Yes good point, I suggest we deal with it by defederating hexbear and the .ml instances.

The Hexbear and .ml instances aren’t really tankies/communists, IMHO. Some of them, sure, but mostly it’s just a facade for their propaganda.

Bots are a big problem on Lemmy too.

Good luck with your hard times. It gets better

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Lucky

People should be welcome and free to discuss just about anything, authoritarian governments and their propagandists should be kicked the fuck out.

Yeah, I see equal voice as an important goal to strive for, but realize that’s difficult on anonymous social media. It seems like it’ll only get worse as LLMs improve.

Yeah, well said. I’m not sure about seeing where downvotes come from, if I could it might be worth getting back into my abandoned account to provide more evidence that defederation is warranted.

I don’t want to simply become insensitive to everyone else’s disapproval around me - rather I want the system to work properly so that I am only getting disapproval from people who I either respect or at least are neutral

Same. I want a system where everyone has an equal voice with limited censorship and a zero tolerance approach to governments or corporations spreading agendas.

The fediverse shouldn’t be segregating users based on what instance they’re in.

If an instance is full of authoritarian propaganda and extreme censorship then actual users should leave.

I see more trolls on lemmy.world than any other instance

Maybe they see your ml account and hate you by association because of abuse they’ve suffered from other ml accounts

With the ability to block hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml, I got cocky and started recommending Lemmy to people that I know irl, however upon thinking it over in greater depth, I am afraid to do that anymore.

I don’t even admit to anyone that I use Lemmy, too much political extremism and propaganda.

Within a couple weeks of signing up for Lemmy I was told I’d “get the wall”, and had to abandon an account because Lemmy.ml users followed me around and downvoted everything I posted (mostly funny memes).

More like CCP and propaganda enthusiasts

Right, but when one of the communities has a reputation for authoritarian admins and mods dedicated to spreading propaganda it’s a bit different.

You’ll waste your time arguing with authoritarian ChatGPTs.