Yeah… That shit with ICANN and Autistici kinda raises some red flags now though…

I’m a climate scientist, I’ve been a web dev, and I’ve worked with complexity in climate, risk, and management spaces. So, compared to those I guess. I’ve worked with some software devs who are well aware of complexity concepts, but I’ve never really seen any of them take a complexity-first approach.

I fully acknowledge that I have a particular perspective, but I struggle to believe that most software devs in generic workplaces are better at complexity thinking than the ones I’ve worked with, given the content we were working with.

The bit we should regret is that we let the rich corporates steal it.

In my experience most software developers have very little understanding of complexity, and mostly ignore it or try to design around it, nor with it. Which is mostly just a function of them needing to work to get by, not to contribute something meaningful to society.

We probably should have

Corporations are made of people, and people more broadly let them gain power. That doesn’t seem like a defence, it’s just a description of our failure.

Do… Do you understand what federation means in this context?

Also, have you considered just, like, going outside?

Strong claim

Clearly “all the problems other social media has” are present without federation, so the claim federation leads to those problems is kind of silly.

Yep. That is the regret.

The whole point of decentralisation/federation is that it’s enshittification proof. If one services goes bad, users can move away and continue to maintain their network effect.

Plenty of old people with stupid takes too

A contribution is a contribution

I think that’s a big part of the point.

Fuck, I guess I gotta get off. See you again in about 3 years.

Bring your friends

You can host your own instance and defederate, it’ll be a win-win

Fuck off grandpa

You can just leave, you know?