I’m not sure what you are implying. I was just saying that alien.top is just like bridge in matrix, why it is better to store data on instance instead of fetching it every time like frontend does and how it helps Lemmy get users.
I’m not sure what you are implying. I was just saying that alien.top is just like bridge in matrix, why it is better to store data on instance instead of fetching it every time like frontend does and how it helps Lemmy get users.
Wow. Didn’t expect 5 users to actually downvote. If people who did it also claim that they came here to leave reddit and belive in fediverse, but hate Matrix - mainstream fediverse instant messaging protocol and one of default lemmy profile fields, I would like to read how they came up with such bizzare and self-contradictory combination of ideas.
Wow, great fearmongering.
Reddit ToS means reddit can do whatever they want with these comments, you don’t have the rights to these comments.
Also in some jurisdictions it is not only unenforceable, but straight illegal(Canada?).
Do bridges make Matrix into Discord, Telegram, Signal, Whatsapp, *gasp* Slack, FB Messenger, imessage, Mattermost, Mumble, *gasp* Google Chat, Instagram, Linkedin, xitter, Skype, SMTP, IRC, KakaoTalk, *heavy gasp* GroupMe, Line, Wechat, Tencent QQ and Jabber/XMPP? Phew. Or does it make entire federation into a 3rd party *insert list again* app, which *insert list except Signal, SMTP and IRC one more time* don’t want and would never tolerate?
How can you as user block votes from one instance?
I don’t agree with them creating bot accounts and commenting on other instances posts though. Everything should be maintained within the instance.
Not sure why you added preserving metadata like username, pfp and timestamp(I guess ts in preserved too) and called it “creating bot accounts”. And as I understand bridging communities on other instances is opt-in.
Alien.top is one-way bridge instance. If you belive(I will not say think because it will be insult to thinking) that it is spam instance, are you sure you understand what fediverse is? It lowers switching cost for reddit users since they can come here, post here, comment here and STILL be able to see content they want to see, but without ads and spyware.
In easy to understand terms: u r spam.
At least it will help against those who accidentally(or intentionally) say “just use Teddit”/other frontend.
I had similar effect under post of linux ponies, where every comment had at least one downvote. I call it “brown marks”.
Why would you need all data to build the frontpage? Why not just make a sliding window with the content from the last 24/48h?
Exactly what I’m saying. To not be super resource-intensive, client-side sorting needs to be incomplete. As I said, if there is hypothetical post from 49 hours ago with 10k upvotes, you will not see it, but you will see one from 48 hours ago with 1k upvotes.
Even if that were true, how is that different, e.g, from any modern desktop email client?
Not much I guess(sounds like Thunderbird). But what about mobile?
That’s why mentioned federatied network bridges store all bridged messages on instance with all the metadata. This is same: bridged posts and comments are stored with metadata. So even if reddit will nuke bridge, already bridged posts will stay.
This also reduces switching cost from reddit to lemmy and turns lemmy into “continue conversation here” button. And according to guy who defined enshittification, low switching cost is how social networks gather TONS of people.
Why hard? Client needs to fetch all metadata needed for sorting for every post created during entire lemmy’s existance on every discovered lemmy instances, which depending on algo you are using, might include comments metadata. To aid client-side sorting you would need server-side filtering, which will limit data avaliable to sorting algo. For example client-side trending algo would not show old trending post because it was filtered out.
So client-side sorting is basically running stripped version of instance without file hosting.
Mirrors allow us to have content protected and out of Reddit’s control. If Reddit decides to tighten up their grip on the API even more, the mirrored content will be already safe from their hands.
I think you are confusing people here by saying mirror. They think about it as another frontend.
I suggest to use Matrix terms. Here what you have would be one-way bridging
One-way bridging is rare, but can be used to represent a bridge that is bridging from the remote system into matrix. This is common when the remote system does not permit message posting, or is simply not capable of handling posting outside their system. The users bridged from the remote system often appear as virtual users in matrix, as is the case with matrix-appservice-instagram.
Client-side filtering? Easy. Client-side sorting? Not easy.
My test community has 74 subscribers, 72 of which are those bots. This means my random test crap ends up on All of lemmy.world and there ain’t much I can do about that other than marking it NSFW so it doesn’t show up to guests.
Interesting. Thanks.
I can see why some people would actually want a readonly Reddit mirror. Like, maybe there’s a community you used to follow but never write to but don’t want to have to use the Reddit app for.
Or One App To See Them All. Two. Matrix client and mastodon client.
If I wanted to see the front page of reddit I’d go to reddit
This is the only way to see it for now. Bridge doesn’t show “the front page of reddit”.
Creators of some federated network disagree with you
Currently the only way to discover new communities and widen your network is by browsing All.
*discover already discovered communities. This is how fediverse works. Server doesn’t know about community unless someone on server interacted with it.
For those who downvote you I suggest to downvote Matrix too
Is userbase proportional to area or radius?