Is it any service that includes the ability to federate? If so, are Matrix/XMPP/other non-ActivityPub services part of the Fediverse, or does Fediverse really just mean ActivityPub?

The context is wanting to promote a Matrix chat room on discuss.online: #online.discuss:discuss.online (see post). Does it belong in Lemmy communities like this one, !fedigrow@lemm.ee, etc? Or does it not count as part of the Fediverse?

  • m_f@discuss.onlineOP
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    It seems like you’d say that Matrix isn’t included? It’s not ActivityPub/AT/nostr

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      Matrix is not federated, it has nothing to do with the whole ActivityThing. They are two separate universes. Maybe there are bridges that I don’t know of, but essentially they are not interconnected.

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        It’s federated, just not to the ActivityPub universe, right? People have been able to join rooms on discuss.online using their matrix.org accounts, which to me counts as federated.

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          Matrix servers can talk to each other, so yes, they are federated. But Matrix is not ActivityPub.