• TheFogan@programming.dev
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    2 days ago

    I mean I don’t really consider him a deplorable person… He was a dumb edgy teen 15 years ago that happened to strike a cord with the overwhelming amount of dumb edgy teens on youtube, and strike it rich. I haven’t paid a ton of attention to him, but from what I saw of his linux and gadget crafting videos, it sounds like he’s grown up a fair amount from his days of scream streaming.

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        4 hours ago

        and then his allegedly support of nazis.

        The nazi one IMO was pretty BS. Largely it came from him playing a game, and commenting that other people were trolling putting up swastika’s etc…

        Which I’ll admit, he handled the criticism poorly, did mostly the wrong things because he found it more of a joke than a real thing. He rightly noted that one of the critics was JK Rowling, who he fairly pointed out had no business calling anyone such. When Charlottsville happened is when he actually gave what I considered a pretty sincere fair apology where he basically noted, "holy shit I thought I was being accused of something that didn’t exist, I didn’t realize that nazi’s are actually still so prevelant in modern society so I wasn’t taking things seriously.

        Now afterwords him dropping the n bomb on a stream was pretty damn bad, though he apologized and admitted it. Still kind of falls into the fact that he’d been paid for years to join in games with a bunch of edgy teenagers, and at the end of the day if you spend too much time with a group of people, you are going to slip up and talk like them.

        Again not calling him a great guy or anything, but I’d say everything in him strikes me as a kid that never grew up (because his life was basically set up encouraging him not to), didn’t understand the weight of a lot of the things he was around, and made a bunch of childish stupid mistakes.

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        Others have pointed out how people keep growing up in their 20s and 30s. But also as a media personality, you can’t ignore the possibility that he’s playing a character on camera. It could legitimately be he just kept acting like his younger self while recording because that pays the bills

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        2 days ago

        Valid… but also have to point out he hit big as a celebrity. When you are literally raking in millions of dollars. He was about 21 when he started his channel. and bottom line is, he got views, he got likes, and it turned into real cash. Most of our jobs etc… encourage us to grow up. His job, rewarded him for catering to his base… which of were younger than him.

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        Everyone is a edgy teenager well into their 20s.

        As the joke goes, if your 18 your a child, if your 23 your a teenager, if your 29 your 30, if your 34 your late 20s, if your 35 your 35.

        Most people in most western worlds don’t even get to start being an adult till they are well into their mid 20s, which means they only START growing up at like 24-25.

        It takes years to actually mature. Anyone who understand this has never worked a job that has frequent fresh to the workforce people cycling though frequently.

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          I was about to respond with this, you’re still in college in your early 20s. Most of us don’t get a four year degree done in actual four years

          We got junior devs in their late 20s because they were doing grad school until like 28