• Alphane Moon@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    Unless these are new threads, I believe I’ve read through them.

    I am not convinced they are Zionist or whitewashing Israeli genocide (in the manner of tankie degenerates).

    I genuinely believe that it benefits no one to casually label people zionists.

    I will give you an example from my native country, Ukraine. After Hamas went on their stupid rampage, a lot of Ukrainians supported Israel (I don’t understand this since the Israeli government is largely pro-russian). People even equated Hamas with the russians (e.g. mass organized killings of civilians).

    That being said, once they saw what Israel did in Gaza, many (not all) started taking a more critical look at their support for Israel.

    I am just saying, it’s not good to label people when their views can be flexible and are sometimes driven by ignorance.

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      13 hours ago

      I didn’t label the “people”

      I labeled the server aka “moderators” and owners who issued intellectually incongruent statements to justify their censorship and other unsavory behaviour.

      • Alphane Moon@lemmy.world
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        13 hours ago

        Fair point.

        I still don’t think the Feddit administration (in the broad sense of the word) is Zionist, but I will admit that I could be wrong.

        For what it’s worth I’ve always leaned on the side of the Palestinians, even before the russians invaded in 2014. I just think some caution is needed with using the term Zionist (especially when there is a solid chance of changing their views).

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          13 hours ago

          I will be honest, I didn’t realize plight of Palestinians until after Gaza genocide started.

          The two sides propaganda and broad support across western regimes works well to keep narratives going.

          I don’t see how the server admins are not zionists at this point but that’s jist t opinion.

          The whole point of fedi is to test opinions in public discourse.

          People should make up their own minds.

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            13 hours ago

            I would say the test of public discourse should have limits. For example “North Korea is a great place to live and their regime is a vanguard against western imperialism” should not be treated as spam/trolling. I would argue the same for “genocide of russian speakers in Donbas”.

            But I digress. You are right in that we must have the opportunity to state facts about Gaza even if it means damning outcomes for the Israeli polity (i.e. factual recognition that Israel is a genocidal settler colonialiat state).