• NotSteve_@piefed.ca
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      16 hours ago

      I hate that it needs repeatedly saying, but its not. Its just based in Germany which has very draconian speech laws relating to Israel and the admins don’t want to be arrested

      • vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Can confirm that Germany is cucked by fascists and only getting worse. AfD is on the rise and doesn’t seem to be slowing down.

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        14 hours ago

        Its just based in Germany

        Move the server. Easy improvement over supporting genocide. They won’t tho.

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          9 hours ago

          The feddit.org server is in Austria. But that doesn’t make any difference when (some of) the admins live in Germany. They could still get their homes raided by police.

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          11 hours ago

          Sorry no offense but thats stupid.

          Oh Yeah Lets just move our whole infrastructure to another Server in a different Country with different laws and jurisdictions so people can hate on israel!

          Bro israel aint the focal Point in their life 🥀

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          14 hours ago

          Right… Why should non Germans have to suffer shit German laws when they are trying to have an open discussion about a genocide.

          Entire premise of their argument is idiotic.

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        16 hours ago

        Germany is a Zionist country that hosts Zionists servers.

        People are best to avoid both if genocide is a deal breaker for them.

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      14 hours ago

      Is that true though? Is it really a Zionist server?

      There are a lot of people who vaguely lean pro-Israel (but may be revaluating their position in light of recent news), who cannot be called Zionist.

      I just think words matter and one shouldn’t debase the meaning of the world Zionists.

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        14 hours ago

        There are two mega threads on Ye power tripping bastards community.

        You can review this discussion for yourself.

        My conclusion is that they used the law to hide behind. Sure some of the offending content should be removed per German law but there is a lot more censorship that happens on there to ensure that zio view points are validated and genocide is white washed.

        A lot of people who discussed the censorship outside of feddit.Org got banned on it despite never posting there.

        Genocide agenda will not be questioned ✊

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          14 hours ago

          Unless these are new threads, I believe I’ve read through them.

          I am not convinced they are Zionist or whitewashing Israeli genocide (in the manner of tankie degenerates).

          I genuinely believe that it benefits no one to casually label people zionists.

          I will give you an example from my native country, Ukraine. After Hamas went on their stupid rampage, a lot of Ukrainians supported Israel (I don’t understand this since the Israeli government is largely pro-russian). People even equated Hamas with the russians (e.g. mass organized killings of civilians).

          That being said, once they saw what Israel did in Gaza, many (not all) started taking a more critical look at their support for Israel.

          I am just saying, it’s not good to label people when their views can be flexible and are sometimes driven by ignorance.

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            13 hours ago

            I didn’t label the “people”

            I labeled the server aka “moderators” and owners who issued intellectually incongruent statements to justify their censorship and other unsavory behaviour.

            • Alphane Moon@lemmy.world
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              13 hours ago

              Fair point.

              I still don’t think the Feddit administration (in the broad sense of the word) is Zionist, but I will admit that I could be wrong.

              For what it’s worth I’ve always leaned on the side of the Palestinians, even before the russians invaded in 2014. I just think some caution is needed with using the term Zionist (especially when there is a solid chance of changing their views).

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                13 hours ago

                I will be honest, I didn’t realize plight of Palestinians until after Gaza genocide started.

                The two sides propaganda and broad support across western regimes works well to keep narratives going.

                I don’t see how the server admins are not zionists at this point but that’s jist t opinion.

                The whole point of fedi is to test opinions in public discourse.

                People should make up their own minds.

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                  12 hours ago

                  I would say the test of public discourse should have limits. For example “North Korea is a great place to live and their regime is a vanguard against western imperialism” should not be treated as spam/trolling. I would argue the same for “genocide of russian speakers in Donbas”.

                  But I digress. You are right in that we must have the opportunity to state facts about Gaza even if it means damning outcomes for the Israeli polity (i.e. factual recognition that Israel is a genocidal settler colonialiat state).