Plex is starting to enforce its new rules, which prevent users from remotely accessing a personal media server without a subscription fee.

If anyone needs it: https://jellyfin.org/

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    3 months ago

    Why would anyone use Plex over jellyfin anyway? The writing was on the wall years ago.

    • kindred@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 months ago

      I set up Plex on my mum’s TV and she can just push play. The UI is intuitive (read: familiar) to her.

      Jellyfin has a reputation for giving users more control and customizability, but the other side of that coin is that it’s more “fiddly”.

      My users don’t want to fiddle.

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        3 months ago

        That’s the opposite of my experience. Jellyfin just works and immediately exposes the content we’re looking for, plex tries overloading you with bullshit and burying your actual content

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          3 months ago

          That’s been my experience too.

          Plex came with my nas, and we never used it because it it was really fiddly and wanted to show everything except my content.

          By contrast, my jellyfin is linked up with the jellyfin for android tv app on the big screen tv, and if nobody told you it wasn’t a regular streaming service you’d probably never know because it’s so straightforward. My wife is not techy at all – she still daily drives her Android phone from 7 years ago because she doesn’t want to change to her new one from 2 years ago – but she can pick up the remote and play a movie at any time.

          I use it every night on my phone to play videos that help me get to sleep, and the app works well.

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          3 months ago

          Come on, I love libre software as much as the next Lemming, but the Plex TV and mobile app is leagues ahead in terms of usability over jellyfin.

          I still prefer jellyfin for many other reasons, but in terms of UX and UI for the average person it’s an easy win for Plex

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            3 months ago

            You must be having a wildly different experience than me then, because I don’t even understand how you can make that claim

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            3 months ago

            Yes, after I set up the server properly (reverse proxy). With this change the same setup on the server side is necessary for remote streaming with free Plex.

            My mum puts in the domain, username and password and starts streaming.

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      3 months ago

      Using jellyfin on Chromecast. For the past 3 weeks I’m stuck not being able to use it because some update broke subtitles support for external players. App became useless, I can’t downgrade it, and the bug is still not fixed.

      Not going to use Plex, just my 2 cents.

      • shishka_b0b@lemmy.zip
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        3 months ago

        I haven’t had any problems with subtitles. You mind linking the issue report you’re referring to?

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      3 months ago

      Because I don’t have to learn about things like proxies to try and open the service up outside my network in a secure manner or try to explain to family they need to run tailscale at the same time and then inevitably have to provide tech support for another aspect of “why is this not working?”

      I just check allow remote access and it just works and I can go about my day doing things I enjoy more because fucking about with Linux and providing tech support are pretty low on that list for me :)

      • chonkyninja@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Should I begin telling you about the wonderful man in the middle attack that I reported to Plex over 3 years ago and how it’s still not fixed? Anyone can setup a plex instance and use that very instance to request an ssl certificate on behalf of any other plex instance, and then setup shop and gain complete access to your machine.

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          3 months ago

          You’re going to need to back up your claim otherwise you might as well be lying as there’s no CVE like this I can find nor any public disclosure.

          Plex have a bug bounty program and a responsive security team too.

          Post your security report.

        • theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          3 months ago

          Typical condescending reply that I expect, yes it is a “skill issue” and I don’t really give a fuck. We don’t all have the same skills or the same levels of interest in acquiring those skills, some of us just want a solution that works easily for their skill level.

          It is your kind of attitude as well that puts more people off learning these things because without a real interest in learning these things those kinds of hostilities just put people off of wanting to participate in those circles.

            • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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              3 months ago

              Do you know how to rebuild your car’s engine?

              Do you know how to remediate black mold spreading on the walls of a houseboat?

              Do you know how to compile Linux to run on some custom arm hardware?

              Do you know how to repair or rebuild a crumbling stone retaining wall?

              There’s a good chance you may not know how to accomplish all of those tasks. There’s also a very good chance you may not care about knowing how to accomplish all of those tasks, as some of them may not be relevant to you. This is ok.

              Finally, I know you’re posting on the Internet, but you don’t have to be an asshole, that’s a choice.

    • dan@upvote.au
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      3 months ago

      Plex still has the most fully-featured music streaming app (Plexamp)

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      Jellyfin is notoriously full of security holes. It’s recommended to not expose it to the Internet. It’s also easy easier on Plex, at least until this bullshit, to have a random non-techie family member sign in to your Plex server from anywhere. I never liked Plex and never got into it, but I see why people used to prefer it.

      I think Emby is a good middle ground for people looking to jump ship from Plex. But I switched to jellyfin from my lifetime Emby sub because the plug-in community there feels dead and Emby development felt dead in the water.

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          It has several unsecured endpoints.

          https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415

          If you read the comments the devs know it’s a serious issue but don’t want to break backwards compatibility fixing them. Their solution for now is to warn people of the risks of exposing their instance to the Web. Which I don’t think they’re doing a great job of.

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            3 months ago

            Aside from most of those being “potential issues”, which weren’t proven, the rest are GETs of things that do not need to be secret, things like album art and list of installed plugins. Besides the one plugin issue, which was an actual security issue, which was fixed over a year and a half ago. https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/pull/11436

            Contrast that with Plex which has numerous high severity CVEs that include things like remote code execution, directory traversal, and more.

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              3 months ago

              list of installed plugins.

              Yeah, as you said, that’s a pretty serious security issue. That’s a data leak that explicitly lays out the shape of your attack surface. It tells the attacker exactly what additional software your server is running and if any of it includes known vulnerabilities, the attacker now knows how to gain access.

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                3 months ago

                That only works if the plugins are somehow accessible through an api controller, which as far as I’m aware, is not how jellyfin plugins work. So no, it wouldn’t increase your attack surface at all.

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      3 months ago

      Skip intro on Apple TV not working on Jellyfin is probably the #1 reason I do not use it.

      When tvOS 26.2 comes out I will tentatively test Jellyfin + Infuse, but until then, Jellyfin is a non-starter for me.

      But I use Emby over Plex so still not using Plex.

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    3 months ago

    Imagine hosting a software on your own hardware and still choosing the one that makes you dependent on the whims of a corporation lmao

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      3 months ago

      When I first set up my server this year it was a VERY easy decision between this and jellyfin. Why would I ever go with the corporate, closed source option?

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        3 months ago

        In my case, I was not able to make jellyfin work: transcoding issues, lagging, client disconnection or unresponsive… Plex worked flawlessly out of the box with the same hardware and the same library.

        From time to time I try Jellyfin again, but things never change …

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    3 months ago

    The only reason I went with plex was easy remote access. Now with the state on reverse proxies and tailscale tunnels we happily ditched it.

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    3 months ago

    Am I the only one who thinks jellyfin is not only superior to pure, but also way more intuitive to setup? I still don’t understand how plexs routing works, and why I need a central account in order to connect to my own server.

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    3 months ago

    Tbf Plex lifetime is often on sale and relatively cheap. For me Plex is a paid Software the free part was always more of a demo.

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    3 months ago

    I’ve never used jellyfin, but do they also host proxy servers? AFAIK plex does and its costing them money, hence the need for paywalling this. You can still use tailscale and reverse proxy to allow remote streaming

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    3 months ago

    Bought a lifetime Plex pass a few years ago so this doesn’t affect me. It’s honestly worth the cost especially over time.

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    3 months ago

    Lol, guess who just made themselves a target. They are now profiting directly on people who stream content they don’t own from other people’s servers. Plex is going to go down when Hollywood sues them.

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    3 months ago

    Plex is not free. Plex is paid software, just like Google Photos or iCloud. The only free software is open source. Open source everything. Doesn’t matter if the client is open source. If the server isn’t, it’s not open source. (I’M LOOKING AT YOU, SNAP!)

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    3 months ago

    Jellyfin users, how is the transcoding situation? I have a mix of AV1 and H265 and I need to get smooth playback to my living room Apple TV for families’ sake.

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          I’m moving to jellyfin because of my customzation obsession after using Plex for YEARS (bought lifetime as a kid in college), but I’m still going to donate to the Jellyfin team if I love the software they made. I’m so new to self hosting and it’s awesome how much free stuff is out there, but how do they maintain it for free?

          Is the argument that we shouldn’t have to pay money to use software or that Plex / software is changing things after taking money? This is the one area that confuses me the most. Free as a selling point but like, are we just not supposed to send money or am I dumb for doing so?

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    3 months ago

    (looks up from his floaty chair in his Jellyfin pool while sipping his fruity bittorrent cocktail) C’MON IN FOLKS THE WATER’S FINE!

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      3 months ago

      (sits in his Lamborghini Plex while a beautiful blonde gives him a handy) I’m fine, mate. Maybe later.

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        2 months ago

        (GreenKnight23’s Internet goes out) (Lambo stalls and blonde turns into Steve Ballmer screaming DEVELOPERS)

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    3 months ago

    Imagine being so addicted to having every nanosecond of your waking life filled with noise and colors that this announcement means anything.

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        3 months ago

        Seems pretty simple to parse, what is causing you an issue? What is not clear?

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                Sorry, I didn’t read your reply, I was streaming every movie, album, book, and magazine in existence to every location in the universe at all times. Even when I blink I have 16K screens inside my eyelids.

                This is normal behavior in 2025. If you cut off my terabit stream, I will writhe on the ground and scream.

                I am not in any way addicted to digital hoarding or continuously upgrading systems that have already exceeded the capacity of any normal person to watch a movie since 20 years.