• Psythik@lemmy.world
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    I can’t keep track of all this shit we’ve canceled. The hell did Oracle do?

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      11 hours ago

      The hell did Oracle do?

      Have you been living under a rock? Think 2010 for starters…

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      Hatred of Oracle predates “cancelling” by decades. Oracle is and has always been one of, if not the most disgusting and vicious companies in tech. They kill everything they touch.

      If you need a political component, then Oracle = Larry Ellison, but Oracle hate predates and supercedes the American political slide into fascism.

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        I was at a party about fifteen years ago. A guy introduced himself and we gabbed for a few minutes. Then he asked what I do for work (IT sysadmin at the time) and I told him and asked the same. He said he was in sales for a tech company. I asked which one, and he stepped close and whispered, “Oracle.” I could see he was prepared for me to bring the hate. He saved himself when he told me he was actually leaving for a gig at Dell. Later, I learned from the host that he made that part about leaving up because he felt bad. I later learned he went to work for Nutanix. Poor guy hated his own employer, and it was obvious.

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          Nutanix…oof. I deal with them every day. It isn’t their fault their shit can’t handle what we do, but it is their sales folk that constantly lie and misrepresent.

          Wanna know one of rhe big reasons people hate Oracle so much? It’s their sales guys. They are awful. If that guy went from Oracle to Nutanix, that tells me that I cannot trust a single syllable out of their mouth.

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            their sales folk that constantly lie and misrepresent.

            So… your average sales folk?

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            22 hours ago

            Sales? No, their sales department is second to their legal department in hate.

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            23 hours ago

            Lol! I’m glad you picked on that. I won’t badmouth them, but the user experience does that for them. That guy from the party must hate himself, haha

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      When they bought Sun, they:

      • killed Solaris, effectively
      • tried to kill zfs too
      • nearly killed mysql with licensing audits
      • became borderline evil with licensing practices
      • acted like complete assholes in court, holding up cases for years
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        You forgot what they did to Java, plus they sued Google for using Java API.

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        Sun was such a useful contributor to the ecosystem and they fucking trashed absolutely everything. It’s a miracle that so much stuff could be saved.

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      Why would you keep track? Can’t form your own opinions?!

      And what the fuck hasn’t Oracle done? Like, seriously, they’ve been a known bad actor for literally decades now…

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        I’m sorry I don’t follow this company’s actions as closely as you do. I can’t even remember the last time I used Oracle-branded software. (Unless you count MySQL, which I’ve never had an issue with. It just works.)

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        Oh so it’s a greed thing, but not quite a Nestlé level of evil thing, then. Meh.

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            I mean, Nestlé killed hundreds of thousands in impoverished countries. I think the Oracle service APIs can’t be that bad, though I’m sure they would be if it made Larry Ellison $50.

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              Can you elaborate on Nestlé?
              I know they’re shit and avoid anything Nes* but am unaware of actual data.

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                They ware widely regarded as among the most villainous companies in history along with DeBeers and the East India Trading Company. Among their more infamous crimes against humanity include bribing the leaders of developing nations to sign over water rights to aquifers their people are using, which they take completely for bottling, destroying the local ecosystem and population. When the malnourished mothers can’t produce milk to feed their babies, they say things like “use our baby formula instead then, which is much healthier than natural milk”. If there’s not already a Behind he Bastards on them, someone could make a whole podcast just on their villainy.

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      I don’t know the actual reason, but I personally get a bad vibe every time I see the logo because usually it means I’m trying to install or fix some java bullshit, which never goes well.