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Lies, damn lies, and graphs that don’t have the Y-axis starting at 0.
10% growth in a day is nice, but far from a revolution. Let’s see this trend going for a month.
Monthly active users increased by 43% between 13 and 14 January: https://pixelfed.fediverse.observer/dailystats
I don’t think anyone here is arguing that the entire world will be using pixelfed by the end of the year, and that its usage will expand to other galaxies by the end of the decade.
It’s a comment about the current growth curve, and it is both accurate and interesting.
Lemmy had the same jump in numbers during the Reddit Exodus. Mastodon had a huge boost when Elon bought Twitter.
Every spike has been a followed by a slide back to baseline in less than a couple of months. After you’ve seen it happen so many times, it is no longer interesting.
The fact that you believe these platforms were the same before and after these events makes it sound like you were not, in fact, there to see it happen. In my experience, it permanently changed both platforms, transforming them from weird niche sites to genuine alternatives.
That said, what you find interesting or not is not any of my business.
This thread (and others in that post) might interest you: https://communick.news/post/2320430/4138857
Yeah, I know I shouldn’t bother. I am just annoyed by the misconception that all graphs should always start in 0 on the Y axis, as if it was some law of nature. Shouldn’t allow myself to get dragged in further. :)
I am here since before the Reddit backout and I am on Mastodon since 2018. Lemmy was at 15k MAU, went up to over 125k and now is 1/3 of that. Mastodon had 1M something before Elon, hit up close to 2M and now is sitting around 800k.
Sure, if your reference point is waaaay before the spikes then what we have now seem “a lot”. However, my point is that these spikes are far from being indicative of mass adoption.
The y axis starting zero does not change the fact that it’s exponentially growing right now. Filter that link posted below for 120 days and it is still a nearly straight vertical line of growth.
It’s not exponentially growing. At best, the growth rate has exponentially increased. These are VERY different things.
It was exponentially growing, the platform would come screeching to a halt and crash.
The only thing worse than misrepresentation of statistics is completely misguided criticism of statistical representation.
While we’re at it, the X axis doesn’t start at zero either.
It’s the perfect combo of karma farming and “well, achtually” to make your blood boil. Good thing karma isn’t a thing on here from what I can tell.
I still can’t get a loops account.
nothing much on there from what I’ve seen, has potential though
I signed up, though I generally don’t like following individuals and much prefer groups or communities like Lemmy. Gotta support independent social media.
I found following hastags I’m interested in to work better for me.
This also works really well for Mastodon. Gets your feed going super easily.
To be fair, the Y-Axis doesn’t start from zero.
That being said, 10% account growth in 2 days is pretty solid. Let’s hope both account creation and engagement metrics (MAUs/DAUs) keep growing.
EDIT: Correct Axis type.
Pedantic: You mean Y-axis, right? Technically, neither start at zero but I think you meant Y based on context.
No, all time based graphs should start at the big bang.
I actually wish this were true. Sure, they would show the snippet for the time we care about, but they MUST provide the source graph that contains all data back to the Big Bang. Specifically the Plank Era, we don’t want a graph where time doesn’t exist, that would make the graph useless.
Yes, of course the Y axis.
I work with charts/vizualizations/data a lot, but for whatever reason I reflexively mistake X/Y a lot. It’s not even funny.
Y has a vertical part, just like its axis. X is the other one.
I make the same mistake all the time for some reason, though I know which is which. I have a theory the reason is that the X axis is often used to plot years (Y), which messes with my brain ever so slightly.
That said, I don’t think the Y axis should necessarily start in zero in a graph that seeks to show the pattern of growth rather than the number of users in absolute terms. If anything, a longer X axis would have been more useful, in order to show how unusual such a growth pattern is.
Isn’t that a 1‰ growth or am I mathing wrong?
Edit: I’m wrong and that’s why I shouldn’t comment first thing in the morning. The math is mathing, I’m just not braining.
Its ~12%
You are mathing wrong. The GP is correct, except for the fact that it applies to the Y axis.
(… it’s a much smaller change on the X axis anyway, something with 10 zeros before the first non-zero digit…)
One percent of 300,000 would be 3,000.
Starting the y-axis zero wouldn’t change the shape of the curve at all, but it would make the increase seem less dramatic.
It was an error on my part.
It’s a ~10% increase, but the scale makes it look like the count shot up by 10x at first glance. I know that’s why you always need to look at the axis labels, but graphs like this are purposely presented this way because they’re easy to misinterpret for the average person.
Just a FYI, Dan who made Pixelfed also does Loops and a few other Fedi projects in case people want more cool stuff to play with.
does anyone know why this sudden uptick?
Meta recently decided to viciously lick Trump’s ass by, among other things, allowing hate speech on their platforms.
Not everyone is impressed.
Along with people being unhappy with Meta, and the looming TikTok ban, Pixelfed just now released apps for it.
Meta has changed their ToS. Prior, you could not accuse someone of being mentally ill without consequence. Now there is an exception allowing shitty people to accuse someone of being mentally ill if they are gay or trans. It’s seriously fucked up.
Also, Mark Zuckerberg, the ostrich fucker, removed the fact checker from Meta services.
I wish they would put the official app on F-Droid. I use PixelDroid, but it’d still be nice to try.
Pixelix just showed up on F-Droid two days ago, the dev open-sourced their code just recently. I find it to be a “better” (subjective :) ) client than PixelDroid after testing it for a bit. $0.02 to any readers. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.daniebeler.pfpixelix/
It has dark mode, btw.
the official app is much slower and less polished than PixelDroid and Pixelix.
they do have their own F-droid repo, though https://fdroid.pixelfed.net/fdroid/repo
Apparently the official app has a few dependencies that themselves depend on Google Play services, hence being blocked for F-droid inclusion.
Anyone know what services these are?
I used Obtainium to get it
The heard “someday” there will be Groups…
hmmm… I never tried out pixelfed. I will now.
edit: oauth not working :/
Oh no, Metas profits!! How will they live in a slightly better world now?
By blocking all mention of Pixelfed on their platforms.
@Evil_Shrubbery @korendian I hope they perish, a truely evil corp. They ones ecperimented with making folks depressed because depressed people are more sensitive to impulse buying.
Gotta have an official app, that’s the only reason I made an account and posted anything.
Pretty sure the official app has been in testing for a while. And I feel like I heard recently it’s releasing a stable build.
In case I’m wrong though, there’s always PixelDroid and the recently released Pixelix.
Also, like most fediverse apps, the first-party, official apps are always very basic and more of a proof-of-concept kind of thing. In most cases you’d be better served with third-party apps.
What are you supposed to put in the “server url” field in Pixelix? I put the instance I have an account on, because I don’t have any other information that would make sense to put there, but nothing happens when I tap the arrow.
Also, what the fuck, fediverse. It’s exactly this kind of bullshit that’s why nobody joins you. Fix it for Christ’s sake. Something this unintuitive doesn’t even belong in a beta build. If I was a paid instagram plant making this app to frustrate people into going back to instagram, this is the splash screen I’d use. Stop making it impossible to recommend you in good faith to people I like.
I don’t know about that app specifically, but I know some fediverse apps do not have all instances in their directory. For example, fedilab doesn’t have friendica.world. I would suggest hunting around for an app that supports your instance, but I agree, it is a dumb problem. What is the point of being able to join whatever instance you want if it is not listed on the app?
325,000 users? Had no idea.
Impressive indeed
Both sites have different monthly active users numbers, but between 42k and 52k is quite impressive
wow, it’s really cool. I have also made an account on gram.social (pixelfed server). so far I am liking it :)
